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		<title>Por: El caso Madoff: Las motivaciones no económicas de un fraude - BlogEconomista</title>
		<link>http://dineroexperto.com/blog/las-victimas-del-caso-madoff/#comment-1110</link>
		<dc:creator>El caso Madoff: Las motivaciones no económicas de un fraude - BlogEconomista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 16:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Asia, Europa donde quiera que haya un inversionista, Madoff, estaba ahí y quien iba a dudar de un prestigio avalado por los años. Que uno de los [...]</description>
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		<title>Por: Caso Madoff</title>
		<link>http://dineroexperto.com/blog/las-victimas-del-caso-madoff/#comment-975</link>
		<dc:creator>Caso Madoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 00:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Impresionante la lista, la verdad es que resulta casi increíble, porque no son precisamente novatos ni inexpertos los estafados.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Impresionante la lista, la verdad es que resulta casi increíble, porque no son precisamente novatos ni inexpertos los estafados.</p>
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		<title>Por: Sean Bellew</title>
		<link>http://dineroexperto.com/blog/las-victimas-del-caso-madoff/#comment-955</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Bellew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 11:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should be grateful if you could correct the erroneous assertion that Vincent Tchenguiz has a possible loss of $61m as a result of Bernard Madoff’s alleged activities.  This figure is incorrect on a number of levels and is being picked up from your website and repeated elsewhere.

Mr Tchenguiz has no direct exposure to the alleged Madoff scam.  Elsina Ltd, whose ultimate beneficial owner is the Tchenguiz Family Trust, which is advised by Vincent Tchenguiz’s Consensus Business Group, has a 29.9% holding in Bramdean Alternatives Ltd (“Bramdean”.  You list Bramdean’s possible loss separately and you are therefore double counting.

Bramdean announced on Friday 12th December that it “has two holdings that maintain trading accounts with Bernard L. Madoff Investment Securities LLC (&quot;Madoff&quot;), Defender Ltd. and Rye Select Broad Market XL Portfolio Ltd., representing approximately 9.5% of” Bramdean’s net asset value as at 31st October 2008 (US$220,245,659).

Therefore Elsina Ltd is, arguably exposed to 29.9% of 9.5% of US$220,245,659 – which is $6,256,077.  However, as one invests in the shares of a company, not in its net asset value, even this calculation is spurious.

Please amend your table accordingly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should be grateful if you could correct the erroneous assertion that Vincent Tchenguiz has a possible loss of $61m as a result of Bernard Madoff’s alleged activities.  This figure is incorrect on a number of levels and is being picked up from your website and repeated elsewhere.</p>
<p>Mr Tchenguiz has no direct exposure to the alleged Madoff scam.  Elsina Ltd, whose ultimate beneficial owner is the Tchenguiz Family Trust, which is advised by Vincent Tchenguiz’s Consensus Business Group, has a 29.9% holding in Bramdean Alternatives Ltd (“Bramdean”.  You list Bramdean’s possible loss separately and you are therefore double counting.</p>
<p>Bramdean announced on Friday 12th December that it “has two holdings that maintain trading accounts with Bernard L. Madoff Investment Securities LLC (&#8220;Madoff&#8221;), Defender Ltd. and Rye Select Broad Market XL Portfolio Ltd., representing approximately 9.5% of” Bramdean’s net asset value as at 31st October 2008 (US$220,245,659).</p>
<p>Therefore Elsina Ltd is, arguably exposed to 29.9% of 9.5% of US$220,245,659 – which is $6,256,077.  However, as one invests in the shares of a company, not in its net asset value, even this calculation is spurious.</p>
<p>Please amend your table accordingly.</p>
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